Comments on: Friends, Followers and Openness http://www.crttbuzzbin.com/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/ Musings and analysis on marketing, buzz and communications. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:07:22 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Social Disease Media from Spin Thicket http://www.crttbuzzbin.com/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-12071 Social Disease Media from Spin Thicket Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:02:38 +0000 http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/blog/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/#comment-12071 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] [...]

]]> By: Business News » Managing Digital Identity http://www.crttbuzzbin.com/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-6648 Business News » Managing Digital Identity Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:39:20 +0000 http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/blog/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/#comment-6648 [...] Concluding Note: For a different take on the issue, read Geoff Livingston’s Friends, Followers, and Openness. One observation: I agree with much of what Geoff writes but not in the sense of a singular [...] [...] Concluding Note: For a different take on the issue, read Geoff Livingston’s Friends, Followers, and Openness. One observation: I agree with much of what Geoff writes but not in the sense of a singular [...]

]]> By: Managing Digital Identity http://www.crttbuzzbin.com/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-6642 Managing Digital Identity Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:37:45 +0000 http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/blog/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/#comment-6642 [...] Concluding Note: For a different take on the issue, read Geoff Livingston’s Friends, Followers, and Openness. One observation: I agree with much of what Geoff writes but not in the sense of a singular [...] [...] Concluding Note: For a different take on the issue, read Geoff Livingston’s Friends, Followers, and Openness. One observation: I agree with much of what Geoff writes but not in the sense of a singular [...]

]]> By: Kami Huyse http://www.crttbuzzbin.com/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-3779 Kami Huyse Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:20:58 +0000 http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/blog/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/#comment-3779 My problem is not with openness but with measuring a social media index by counting the number of friends one has on each network. I think measuring it in such a way undermines the value of such platforms, which can serve to facilitate better two-way conversations and relationship building. I just wnated to make sure my view wasn't misrepresented. My problem is not with openness but with measuring a social media index by counting the number of friends one has on each network. I think measuring it in such a way undermines the value of such platforms, which can serve to facilitate better two-way conversations and relationship building. I just wnated to make sure my view wasn’t misrepresented.

]]> By: Geoff Livingston http://www.crttbuzzbin.com/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-3778 Geoff Livingston Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:58:40 +0000 http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/blog/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/#comment-3778 Great discussion so far. Brian, you are right... I took a very liberal paint brush to drive home the principle of openness. There are great differences between open technological/software system design and personal privacy. Great discussion so far. Brian, you are right… I took a very liberal paint brush to drive home the principle of openness. There are great differences between open technological/software system design and personal privacy.

]]> By: ob81 http://www.crttbuzzbin.com/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-3776 ob81 Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:18:39 +0000 http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/blog/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/#comment-3776 I agree Chape. People MUST be open to new things and people in any situation. If they want people to listen at least. :D I agree Chape. People MUST be open to new things and people in any situation. If they want people to listen at least. :D

]]> By: Brian Oberkirch http://www.crttbuzzbin.com/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-3774 Brian Oberkirch Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:42:15 +0000 http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/blog/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/#comment-3774 I think any system design should default to open and give serious consideration to the specific increase in experience that comes with a decision to close off aspects of the design. But default to open as the benefits are pretty obvious. That said, this post conflates privacy options with open system design. Part of the magic of LiveJournal (and later Vox) was that you could write for a specific audience. More granular privacy options are going to be a preferred design pattern as we put more of ourselves online. I also think that different sites are built for different purposes. One of the reasons I prefer to blog thoughts (vs leave them in comments or share them via email discussion lists) is that I want them open to anyone who cares to find them. I also have a very liberal comment approach (use your name and don't be a complete asshole). So the blog is the perfect place for me to get new contacts, etc. I have a big list of ways people can contact me (IM, etc), which works great. I use Twitter for updating my friends and scanning what they are up to, and there is certainly a limit to how much you can add to that stream before it is less effective. I also don't want my tweets on the Google and want to be free to post off color or snarky things to my tribe. Facebook and Pownce are much the same for me, though I use them in different ways. So, the approach I've come to for twitter, linkedin, etc. is that I have to know the person in some way. I think future social apps are going to be hit much harder with this issue, as there is only so much we can track in minute detail. I think any system design should default to open and give serious consideration to the specific increase in experience that comes with a decision to close off aspects of the design. But default to open as the benefits are pretty obvious.

That said, this post conflates privacy options with open system design. Part of the magic of LiveJournal (and later Vox) was that you could write for a specific audience. More granular privacy options are going to be a preferred design pattern as we put more of ourselves online.

I also think that different sites are built for different purposes. One of the reasons I prefer to blog thoughts (vs leave them in comments or share them via email discussion lists) is that I want them open to anyone who cares to find them. I also have a very liberal comment approach (use your name and don’t be a complete asshole). So the blog is the perfect place for me to get new contacts, etc. I have a big list of ways people can contact me (IM, etc), which works great.

I use Twitter for updating my friends and scanning what they are up to, and there is certainly a limit to how much you can add to that stream before it is less effective. I also don’t want my tweets on the Google and want to be free to post off color or snarky things to my tribe. Facebook and Pownce are much the same for me, though I use them in different ways. So, the approach I’ve come to for twitter, linkedin, etc. is that I have to know the person in some way.

I think future social apps are going to be hit much harder with this issue, as there is only so much we can track in minute detail.

]]> By: chapel http://www.crttbuzzbin.com/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-3771 chapel Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:24:34 +0000 http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/blog/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/#comment-3771 I agree wholeheartedly about being open to anyone that wishes to be a beneficial part of your network. You and I are friends on Pownce, I came here to read this after you posted a note about it on Pownce. Now I am commenting and sharing in this social process. If you never would have befriended me, someone you don't know as I only know of you from our interactions on Pownce, this comment would have never come to life, I would never have found your blog (well never say never, lol). There is something that even in real world terms that the people that have the best friends are the ones that are open to new things and people. Why should the internet be any different? I agree wholeheartedly about being open to anyone that wishes to be a beneficial part of your network. You and I are friends on Pownce, I came here to read this after you posted a note about it on Pownce. Now I am commenting and sharing in this social process.

If you never would have befriended me, someone you don’t know as I only know of you from our interactions on Pownce, this comment would have never come to life, I would never have found your blog (well never say never, lol).

There is something that even in real world terms that the people that have the best friends are the ones that are open to new things and people. Why should the internet be any different?

]]> By: Alice Marshall http://www.crttbuzzbin.com/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-3770 Alice Marshall Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:58:13 +0000 http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/blog/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/#comment-3770 You may be on to something. I am not on Facebook, so can offer no opinion. As far as LinkedIn is concerned, I consider it a kind of professional recommendation, so I only link to people I admire. If I link to someone, that means I think that they are good at their job. Twitter is altogether different from my point of view. It is a shorter and more lighthearted version of blogging. More "followers" is good. I feel the same way about del.icio.us, I will put anyone on my network who links to mine. You may be on to something. I am not on Facebook, so can offer no opinion. As far as LinkedIn is concerned, I consider it a kind of professional recommendation, so I only link to people I admire. If I link to someone, that means I think that they are good at their job.

Twitter is altogether different from my point of view. It is a shorter and more lighthearted version of blogging. More “followers” is good. I feel the same way about del.icio.us, I will put anyone on my network who links to mine.

]]> By: ob81 http://www.crttbuzzbin.com/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-3765 ob81 Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:03:19 +0000 http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/blog/2007/07/22/friends-followers-and-openness/#comment-3765 I do think that the random friend thing on social networks is kind of outlandish, but most sites do give you a decision of who you want to interact with. I personally, use the "Genuine interest" aspect when it comes to internet friends. Ironically, I am pretty much interested in being friends with anyone that communicates regularly. I do think that the random friend thing on social networks is kind of outlandish, but most sites do give you a decision of who you want to interact with. I personally, use the “Genuine interest” aspect when it comes to internet friends. Ironically, I am pretty much interested in being friends with anyone that communicates regularly.

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