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		<title>By: 301 Moved Permanently</title>
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		<dc:creator>301 Moved Permanently</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] The articles &quot;Government 2.0: An Insider&#8217;s Perspective&quot; and  &quot;Government 2.0: A Theory of Social Government&quot; by Mark Drapeau, 2006-08 NDGS Fellow, were published on Mashable.com. He was also interviewed on the Buzz Bin Blog, &quot;Musings and analysis on marketing, buzz, PR and Washington, DC&quot;. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: The Mark Drapeau Web: Mark Drapeau in the Buzz Bin</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mark Drapeau Web: Mark Drapeau in the Buzz Bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Drapeau in the Buzz Bin    PR 2.0 guru Geoff Livingston profiled my efforts with Government 2.0 in his blog, the Buzz Bin today. Thanks, Geoff!!      Posted by Mark [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Frank Connolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Connolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mark,

Here in the Victorian Government in Australia we are starting to use a some of the new social media. We have had a whole of govt continuous improvement blog up for over two years now and currently have a number of groups playing with wikis and sites such as Ning. 

These tools have been something of a challenge as we are so used to living our lives inside the &quot;safety&quot; of the firewall where we can control all. 

These media are a particular threat to some in the IT and corporate communications areas as they by-pass the usual gatekeeper function and threaten the status quo. 

However we are slowly changing direction (despite having the turning circle of a supertanker.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mark,</p>
<p>Here in the Victorian Government in Australia we are starting to use a some of the new social media. We have had a whole of govt continuous improvement blog up for over two years now and currently have a number of groups playing with wikis and sites such as Ning. </p>
<p>These tools have been something of a challenge as we are so used to living our lives inside the &#8220;safety&#8221; of the firewall where we can control all. </p>
<p>These media are a particular threat to some in the IT and corporate communications areas as they by-pass the usual gatekeeper function and threaten the status quo. </p>
<p>However we are slowly changing direction (despite having the turning circle of a supertanker.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Drapeau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Drapeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone for your comments.  My gut feeling tells me that every employee is a representative of the agency or company, and therefore that in the new media space, everyone will be delivering messages.  Once everyone agrees that ultimately it is very hard to control this trend, then people can best decide how to accomplish what they want under the new paradigm.  Undoubtedly, the mechanism by which this happens in the government will be very complicated.  And so, I will continue to be employed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone for your comments.  My gut feeling tells me that every employee is a representative of the agency or company, and therefore that in the new media space, everyone will be delivering messages.  Once everyone agrees that ultimately it is very hard to control this trend, then people can best decide how to accomplish what they want under the new paradigm.  Undoubtedly, the mechanism by which this happens in the government will be very complicated.  And so, I will continue to be employed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Herzog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ari Herzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is frustrating to continually read people talk about the 2.0 phenomenon without providing contrast to earlier versions.

I know the difference between Web 1.0 and Web 2.0, but when you bring in terms like Government 2.0, Enterprise 2.0, Office 2.0, Mobile 2.0, PR 2.0, etc., it looks like noise to me.

Why not use the more known Web 2.0 moniker and adapt it to different environments, e.g. government, enterprise, etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is frustrating to continually read people talk about the 2.0 phenomenon without providing contrast to earlier versions.</p>
<p>I know the difference between Web 1.0 and Web 2.0, but when you bring in terms like Government 2.0, Enterprise 2.0, Office 2.0, Mobile 2.0, PR 2.0, etc., it looks like noise to me.</p>
<p>Why not use the more known Web 2.0 moniker and adapt it to different environments, e.g. government, enterprise, etc?</p>
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		<title>By: Carmen Villadar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carmen Villadar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maxine, your statement, &quot;Regarding putting a face on government agencies in social media, this is a challenging one. It’s tough for agencies to maintain the authenticity and truth that characterizes social media and still maintain the “face” of the agency.&quot; Absolutely, this would be quite a challenging feat. Can you think of a way how best to approach this issue? For some reason I find myself traveling down that hole. Trying to come up with some angle but it&#039;s a dead end for me. 

You&#039;ve really pointed out key points that need to be addressed or at least made aware of. It almost makes me start to think that perhaps the government should just stay away altogether. But how can they? Mr. Drapeau surely has an interesting journey ahead of him since this initiative is completely different from any other undertaking that the government has since gotten involved in. 

Maxine, because you posed such key questions, I&#039;m wondering if you yourself started thinking about possible solutions. If so, please DO share them with us. You&#039;ve really got me thinking now. :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maxine, your statement, &#8220;Regarding putting a face on government agencies in social media, this is a challenging one. It’s tough for agencies to maintain the authenticity and truth that characterizes social media and still maintain the “face” of the agency.&#8221; Absolutely, this would be quite a challenging feat. Can you think of a way how best to approach this issue? For some reason I find myself traveling down that hole. Trying to come up with some angle but it&#8217;s a dead end for me. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve really pointed out key points that need to be addressed or at least made aware of. It almost makes me start to think that perhaps the government should just stay away altogether. But how can they? Mr. Drapeau surely has an interesting journey ahead of him since this initiative is completely different from any other undertaking that the government has since gotten involved in. </p>
<p>Maxine, because you posed such key questions, I&#8217;m wondering if you yourself started thinking about possible solutions. If so, please DO share them with us. You&#8217;ve really got me thinking now. :o)</p>
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		<title>By: Maxine Teller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maxine Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments, as always, Mark.  

I wholeheartedly agree that Public Affairs is the home--and needs to be the driver--for much of the social media tools applied to gov&#039;t.  
I do work with DoD&#039;s New Media group and we view part of our role as internal consulting function to other areas of DoD re: social media tools and solutions.  As the communicators, PA must take the lead.  It&#039;s about communications; technologies are just enabling tools.

Regarding putting a face on government agencies in social media, this is a challenging one.  It&#039;s tough for agencies to maintain the authenticity and truth that characterizes social media and still maintain the &quot;face&quot; of the agency.

In some agencies--DoD, included--a group other than Press Ops is managing blogger and other social media relationships.  It&#039;s difficult to send a consistent message when the messengers come from two separate groups.  

It&#039;s, of course, a PR nightmare waiting to happen when legacy media recieves one message and communication and social media receives another.

What further complicates this is that those managing social media relationships and communications on behalf of a given agency are operating by two different sets of rules: old media and new media. 

It&#039;s also challenging to balance employees&#039; ownership with the &quot;official&quot; message from an agency.  This leads to a related question: can just anyone represent an agency as the &quot;human face&quot;?  Can this be a volunteer position or only an official public affairs role?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments, as always, Mark.  </p>
<p>I wholeheartedly agree that Public Affairs is the home&#8211;and needs to be the driver&#8211;for much of the social media tools applied to gov&#8217;t.<br />
I do work with DoD&#8217;s New Media group and we view part of our role as internal consulting function to other areas of DoD re: social media tools and solutions.  As the communicators, PA must take the lead.  It&#8217;s about communications; technologies are just enabling tools.</p>
<p>Regarding putting a face on government agencies in social media, this is a challenging one.  It&#8217;s tough for agencies to maintain the authenticity and truth that characterizes social media and still maintain the &#8220;face&#8221; of the agency.</p>
<p>In some agencies&#8211;DoD, included&#8211;a group other than Press Ops is managing blogger and other social media relationships.  It&#8217;s difficult to send a consistent message when the messengers come from two separate groups.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s, of course, a PR nightmare waiting to happen when legacy media recieves one message and communication and social media receives another.</p>
<p>What further complicates this is that those managing social media relationships and communications on behalf of a given agency are operating by two different sets of rules: old media and new media. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also challenging to balance employees&#8217; ownership with the &#8220;official&#8221; message from an agency.  This leads to a related question: can just anyone represent an agency as the &#8220;human face&#8221;?  Can this be a volunteer position or only an official public affairs role?</p>
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		<title>By: Carmen Villadar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carmen Villadar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Drapeau&#039;s comments were indeed insightful. It&#039;s apparent that social networking platforms and Web 2.0 tools will soon have their impact on Governments. Their communication infrastructure will completely change - and I think for the better.

He&#039;s quite right about putting faces, personalities and access to the people that make the decisions. Since Mr. Drapeau&#039;s presence in the social media scene, I have started to change my views on the Government. Maybe this IS hope for the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Drapeau&#8217;s comments were indeed insightful. It&#8217;s apparent that social networking platforms and Web 2.0 tools will soon have their impact on Governments. Their communication infrastructure will completely change &#8211; and I think for the better.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s quite right about putting faces, personalities and access to the people that make the decisions. Since Mr. Drapeau&#8217;s presence in the social media scene, I have started to change my views on the Government. Maybe this IS hope for the future.</p>
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