Comments on: Tension from the Old School http://www.crttbuzzbin.com/2009/02/15/tension-from-the-old-school/ Musings and analysis on marketing, buzz and communications. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:07:22 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Geoff Livingston http://www.crttbuzzbin.com/2009/02/15/tension-from-the-old-school/comment-page-1/#comment-81239 Geoff Livingston Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:42:45 +0000 http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/?p=2414#comment-81239 Thanks, Dan. I totally agree and found the blog post to be really quite nasty in a lot of ways. It's one thing to question the facts, it's another to get into name calling and the like. It bordered on troll-like behavior, and you are right it may have either been a personal rant or an attempt at link-bait. And I also agree that the opportunity is outstanding for both the fourth and fifth estate. I sense that the two parties are becoming more intertwined and are wroking with each other more and more openly. Thanks, Dan. I totally agree and found the blog post to be really quite nasty in a lot of ways. It’s one thing to question the facts, it’s another to get into name calling and the like. It bordered on troll-like behavior, and you are right it may have either been a personal rant or an attempt at link-bait.

And I also agree that the opportunity is outstanding for both the fourth and fifth estate. I sense that the two parties are becoming more intertwined and are wroking with each other more and more openly.

]]> By: Dan Thornton http://www.crttbuzzbin.com/2009/02/15/tension-from-the-old-school/comment-page-1/#comment-81221 Dan Thornton Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:18:25 +0000 http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/?p=2414#comment-81221 It seems really bizarre at a time when true 'old' media is finally starting to change, that now there's an issue between bloggers and twitter/social networks. It's definitely the kind of thing that can look embarrassing when you're talking to established journalists and management about the changes in media. To be fair, Jalopnik itself is a pretty big blog in the automotive world - but it does seem a very odd topic for them to cover, compared to the normal news on car launches etc. Personally I'd have a slight suspicion that there's either personal motivation behind the story, or it's an attempt to capitalise on some link bait traffic. As for 'superhero' status - that's something generally put on people, not self-assigned. Scott's seemed like a personable guy in the few messages I've exchanged with him, and I've yet to meet anyone who is serious about online marketing who refers to themselves as an expert, guru or superhero. The second tension in all of this is actually the big opportunity. If new media raises a question over verification and accuracy, then that's what journalists should be doing - curation of content, supply of context, and digging deeper into the story with sources that most people couldn't reach or probe enough for information. It seems really bizarre at a time when true ‘old’ media is finally starting to change, that now there’s an issue between bloggers and twitter/social networks. It’s definitely the kind of thing that can look embarrassing when you’re talking to established journalists and management about the changes in media.

To be fair, Jalopnik itself is a pretty big blog in the automotive world – but it does seem a very odd topic for them to cover, compared to the normal news on car launches etc.

Personally I’d have a slight suspicion that there’s either personal motivation behind the story, or it’s an attempt to capitalise on some link bait traffic.

As for ’superhero’ status – that’s something generally put on people, not self-assigned. Scott’s seemed like a personable guy in the few messages I’ve exchanged with him, and I’ve yet to meet anyone who is serious about online marketing who refers to themselves as an expert, guru or superhero.

The second tension in all of this is actually the big opportunity. If new media raises a question over verification and accuracy, then that’s what journalists should be doing – curation of content, supply of context, and digging deeper into the story with sources that most people couldn’t reach or probe enough for information.

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